Item 1916

BUY ~ Motor ~ Fullsize - Radial Flux - Stock Fisher & Paykel

Specifications of the Purchased (Stock) Motors:

See the hard copy page in Electrotor-SloMo ~ Motor - Radial Flux - Specifications. It is the printout of Access database ~ Motor, Form ~ Specifications.

See the hard copy page in Electrotor-SloMo ~ Motor - Radial Flux - Performance Spreadsheet. It is the printout of Access database ~ Motor, Form ~ Performance Spreadsheet.

Notes:

(1) These do not agree with the data in # 5. Perhaps Randy meant to say mm and not " for the wire diameter. If so then the model is a 60S and the wire diameter is probably 23 AWG See http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm. 16 AWG gauge wire is 13.17248 ohms per Km.

(2) The measured number of windings per coil is 195, exactly as Randy said.

(4) The measured length of the wire per coil is 51.5 feet. This means that the total length for 24 coils (Wye Terminal-to-terminal) is 1,236 feet.

(3) Measured resistance of two phases, through the Wye connection is 30.9 ohms.

(5) The implication being that there is definitely 5 layers times 39 turns per layer for a total number of 195 turns, however the winding of the wire allows for a little radial sloppiness.

(6) Calculations:

(*) The given 'Maximum amps for chassis wiring' for 23 AWG gauge wire is 4.7 amps

Weight:

Stator:

Rotor:

Total:

Drawing:

 

Electrical Gearing:

The winding on the bought motor has an electronic gearing ratio of 360/15 = 24:1. See; OTHER: Electrical - Motor - Miscellaneous ~ Electrical Gearing

 

Speed:

The Fisher & Paykel washing machine rotates at 300, 700, and 1000 RPM.

Speed/Magnets:

Both of the purchased rotors turn at the same speed at the same input values.

Magnet:

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Outside Web Page Information on F & P Motors and Revisions to These Motors etc:

    1. My Fisher & Paykel re-wiring steps
    2. Fisher and Paykel Generators/Alternators This is discussing a 42 coil rotor.
    3. The 7 phase F&P This is discussing a 42 coil rotor.
    4. Fisher and Paykel Smartdrive motor - suitability as an alternator. This page shows testing of motor. This company is in Australia. The domestic mains power supply in Australia is 240V AC, 50Hz.
    5. What is a Smart Drive? This is also is stored on computer at C:/Helicopter/Misc Files/WhasisaSmartDrive.pdf. This shows information on the bearing between the stator and the rotor.
    6. Fisher and Paykelwashing machine motorsfor electricity generation
    7. Wiring
    8. http://www.thebackshed.com/
    9. http://www.ecoinnovation.co.nz/c-58-smart-drives.aspx
    10. Fisher & Paykel WA37T26 US Washer parts I do not know if this has the smart motor.
    11. http://www.ecoinnovation.co.nz/p-173-type-4-cog-free-smart-drive-new.aspx
    12. http://www.ecoinnovation.co.nz/p-336-pressed-steel-rotor.aspx
    13. https://www.powerspout.com/
    14. http://www.ecoinnovation.co.nz/c-61-types.aspx
    15. Pillow block bearing http://www.ecoinnovation.co.nz/p-412-pillow-block-bearings.aspx 25 mm shaft.
    16. http://www.theinventory.orconhosting.net.nz/smartdrives.htm
    17. Email from Randy & Pat Burmeister, the supplier of F& P motors, dated Feb 17, 2010
    18. http://www.fisherpaykelparts.net/product/420296P/420296P-RPS-Sensor/ May not be the correct one???
    19. FISHER & PAYKELDIRECT DRIVE MOTORS

Fisher & Paykel has produced washing machine motors in three different models. A 60s, a 80s, and a 100s. They all have the same mounting dimensions. The newest model 60s has 36 coils (larger with more turns of wire). The 80s and 100s both have 42 coils, with the 80s having more turns of smaller wire and the 100 s having less turns of larger wire.

The 60P has the highest watts. What is the parallel & serial winding?

EcoInnovation pioneered decogging Smart Drives but F&P just solved the problem with the launch of their new cog free Smart Drive, which we call the 60S-dc. Do not be fooled by appearances this Smart Drive is very different from the first three models. The differences include:
36 stator poles instead of 42
48 magnetic poles instead of 56
Rounded stator fingers
Horse shoe magnets in the rotor
Clip on protective guard.

All units sold as new items. We are still compiling information on this unit but the 36 stator poles means that it can be connected in more ways than the 42 pole version. 36 is divisible by 3 twice. Performance is similar to the 60S version that is replaces.
From a 60s?dc base unit you can make the following that can be connected in star or delta:
60S-dc ------------ 12 fingers per phase in series as supplied (60S old name).
60S-dc 6S2P ------/------ 12 fingers per phase 6 series 2 parallel groups.
60S-dc 4S3P ----/----/---- 12 fingers per phase 4 series 3 parallel groups.
60S-dc 3S4P ---/---/---/--- 12 fingers per phase 3 series 4 parallel groups.
60S-dc 2S6P --/--/--/--/--/-- 12 fingers per phase 2 series 6 parallel groups (60SP).
60S-dc 1S12P -/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/-/- 12 fingers per phase 1 series 12 parallel groups (60P).

To make the
>> motor complete, you will need two bearings, (6005 or USF205-25
>> 4-bolt flange bearing), two 12 x 30 mm Bolts, four 1/4-20 x 3/4"
>> bolts and a bearing holder or pivot weldment. (I now have a new
>> design available). The Stator normally is piloted off the
>> bearing to align it with the main shaft for the magnetic hub.
>> That bearing (6005) should stick out from .100" to .125" to
>> allow this alignment. I was in the process of developing a "kit"
>> for these motors, but that has yet to materialize. I am willing
>> to "talk" you thru any problems or questions.

Graph:

It appears that the motors are shipped from the USA:

Why are there rejected units in the USA? Perhaps they were made in the USA. The name on the stator is Whirlpool and there are part numbers.

US Priority Post:

Notes:

Information on the potential motor supplier: www.randysworkshop.com

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Canada

Fisher & Paykel Appliances Canada, Inc
4180 Sladeview Crescent
Unit 4 Mississauga
Ontario L5L 0A1
Canada
Phone: 905-569-4000
Fax: 905-569-4029

New Parts:

PS993018

This lists all the parts; http://www.partselect.ca/ModelFrames.aspx?ModelID=759296&ModelNum=MTW6600TB0&mfgModelNum=&ManufactureID=2&Selected=5XWOLKBA&Position=1&mfg=Whirlpool&Type=&Mark=1

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